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    by TheChosenOne
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Fantastic stuff from John Woo and Tsui Hark. Not as brilliant as the first one, but it's up there. The last 15 minutes or so are out of this world!
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    by DarkHumour


Probably as not as good as the first, bring back Chow Yun Fat as the lost brother of his character in this first movie. Ti Lung is still struggling to keep his distance from the triads and his policeman brother is squeezing him for information.

Heroic bloodshed at its best.

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    by JAY LEE




John Woo and most of the original cast return for this rather hokey and uneven sequel. But there is still enjoyment to be squeezed out of this strange fruit of a film. Especially if you lower your expectations to a ludicrous low, and view it as more of a spoofy companion piece than an actual sequel.

The odd, spoof-like nature of this film may be attributed to Woo's reluctance to even do a sequel to his 1986 heroic bloodshed masterpiece. (Where were these high standards when he did "Just Heroes"?) But he got on board anyway, in some misguided attempt to revive Dean Shek's career. So with no greater artistic vision behind it, it comes as no surprise that the movie ends up as kind of an off kilter mess.

There are multiple things you could pick at here. The whole "set up" scenario of Dean Shek's character is just sloppy writing. There were about a hundred better ways of getting that plot point out of the way. And his looney schtick gets a little tiresome after awhile. The choice of having Chow Yun Fat come back as his own twin is also sort of silly. And what the hell is up with that cartoon thing? Well, nevermind. Having Chow in the movie is better than not having him, even if the identical twin angle is a little too convenient. Ti Lung's and Leslie Cheung's arcs are probably the ones that work the best here. But we are still pretty far from the greatness of the first movie. Actually, nothing in this movie compares to the original. Well, except for the action.

There is gun blasting mayhem and virtuoso violence aplenty here. And while not as poignant as in the first movie, it is still high caliber stuff, done with Woo's usual style and flair. The final shootout in the mansion is probably one the best and bloodiest showdowns of the genre, totally over the top and ridiculous. A mass slaughter, if you will, gotta' love it.

This is certainly not up there with Woo's other masterpieces in the genre but still worth a look for fans of bloody gunplay.

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YI agree with everything you said Jay. As annoying as Dean Shek's schtick was, it was actually one of his better performances. Woo probably would have been better off not making this flick. It was pretty bad until the finale.William Giordanella
YI agree with you TheDenizen. Waiting for the finale I was so exci;p['ted...Cinema!
YI have to agree with TheDenizen. Truthfully, the film is a mess - but it's a mess with a phenomenal final shootout/sword battle. I thought of ABT I and II as being primarily about Ti Lung's. Chow's performance is a supporting one, charming though it isJeffrey Frawley
YThe final shootout is so great, it overshadowed a lot of the film's shortcomings for me.TheDenizen
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    by TheDenizen


Picking up where the first film left off, ABT2 is jam packed with even crazier violence and shootouts. The gun battle in the house at the end is one of the best ever filmed.
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    by LG43358


Not as powerful as the first, but it's still a John Woo movie. Great film.
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Ya classic with the mother of all gunbatles in the finale. awesomeJM30787
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    by AK20208


Too bad the whole movie doesn't measure up to the finale, could have been higher rating.
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    by Jeffrey Frawley


This film is very much a guilty pleasure: It doesn't really make proper sense, and it is narratively bizarre; nonetheless, the action scenes are outstanding, and the film is terrific fun to watch.

(I suspect I would watch Ti Lung in absolutely anything - he is just magnetic.)

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    by Michael Long




I won't go into the details of the convoluted story in "A Better Tomorrow 2". Why? Because this movie is like good porn; you fast forward to the nasty parts which are the trademark ballistic ballet of gunfights choreographed in exaggerated fashion by maestro, John Woo.

As a diehard John Woo Hong Kong action movie fan, I must admit to having a guilty pleasure to the perverse violence of this movie. I consider Hard Boiled, and The Killer, as better, overall films and would recommend them over ABT2 for those that want to see Woo's best work. But neither match the sheer, unapologetic violence of this film. The climax has our heroes (the four original Reservoir Dogs in black suits) invading the bad guy's mansion that is fortified with a "well armed militia". The trademark scene is Chow Yun Fat honorably exchanging guns and gunfire with an assassin at point blank range. This footage can be seen in Christian Slater's film, "True Romance".

Anyone who takes indulgence in violence for the sake of violence will consider this a visual orgy. There are literal buckets of blood being tossed for effect as baddies are mowed down by .9mm bullets and hand grenades! It makes anything by Peckinpah, Leone, or even Die-Hard, look anemic. These are much more complete films, of course, but you don't watch Woo films for their drama.

True. Mainstream North American audiences may not understand nor appreciate it. Most of the time, it is their inability to suspend disbelief -- "C'mon don't they ever run outta bullets?"

For those that can let go will appreciate this movie...just make sure you understand that it is porn and you must fast-forward to the good parts.

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    by SD3545



Woo is back, and so is Chow Yun-fat. Yeah, he pulled "I have a twin brother living in _______" routine.

In this sequel, Ho (Ti Lung) initially refuses to go undercover to bust the gang he used to work for in exchange for his release from prison, he only accepts after his little brother, the policeman Kit (Leslie Cheung) accepts the assignment.

Meanwhile in New York, Ken Gor (Chow Yun-Fat), the twin brother of Mark Gor from the 1st movie, shelters the boss of the gang, who has had to flee after it is taken over by a more aggressive leadership.

Very much like the first ABT, but there's alot less talk and a lot more gun-play. Some the shoot outs are down right poetic, the part with Chow Yun-Fat getting attacked in his apartment and him just casually walking blowing away guys, sending one down a hallway from a shotgun blast, and taking out a guy while sliding down a staircase on his back. Its friggin' awesome.

In ABT, the end battle was cool, but the one here is stupendous. Chow, Ti, and Leslie invade the bad guys house and lay waste to everyone. They use grenades, gas, guns and a sword!

Both Chow and John prove that they are the ultimate action troupe with this movie. Action fans owe it to themselves to get this movie.

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    by SM7289




Better described as a clichéd parody of the first rather than a true extension of it, I was embarrassed and let down by this film. Melodrama reigns in the movie, and no opportunity for a long, drawn-out chunk of emotion is unused. The first ABT worked so well because it knew when to use emotion, when to use action, and when to use guns. ABT2 is guilty of overkill in all three of these categories, and of cranking the dials up to 10 on all fronts without even the slightest hint of subtlety or style.

When things get melodramatic, they get OVERLY melodramatic (rice scene, refrigerator scene,) and when the guns come out, the guns are BLAZING in ridiculous fashion (the ending mansion scene.)

Perhaps I'm biased, since I am no fan of the trademark HK melodrama (which is pervasive in this film, even more so than in Bullet In The Head, the grand champion of bad melodrama) and appreciate gunplay immeasurably more when it is done sensibly and with measured effect, instead of senselessly & to the point of farce.

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    by HO

Chow Yun Fat returns as his own twin brother, and asks, unforgettably, "you don't like my rice?"
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    by RFC

The thrilling sequel to "A Better Tomorrow". Leslie Cheung and Ti Lung reprise their roles as brothers, Ho a reformed gangster (Lung) and Kit a rookie cop (Cheung). Together with the help of Ken (Chow Yun Fat), they try to crack a massive underworld conspiracy. When Kit is killed, Ken and Ho team up with an ex-underworld figure, Lung, and in samurai-like fashion, deal with the mob in a final climatic and bloody confrontation.
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