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 BETTER THAN ONG BAK? (1022 views)AUTHOR /
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I think the first time ANYONE saw Ong Bak, they were blown away because the action and stunts were as impressive as anything Jackie Chan has done, but more brutal. The same team was behind Chocolate, and I think this might be a better film. It may not have QUITE the high flying acrobatic action (think street chase scene) as Ong Bak, but I thought overall, the action was just as good, but with a better story, and generally more polished a movie. YoMama
9/22/2008 8:04 PM
 #2 Totally agree that Chocolate was a better overall film. These filmmakers have come a long way in a short time. Tony Jaa is freaking amazing, but Jeeja busted some incredible moves here, and the overall scope of this one was reminiscent of classic Jackie Chan films, with elaborate setups and stuntmen getting the crap beaten out of them left and right.Choco
9/22/2008 8:12 PM
 #3 I think you may be on to something here. I got to agree with you and Choco that Chocolate might be a better movie overall. There was far more variety of types of action such as gunplay and a sword battle that integrated nicely with the more traditional fights and stunts. Chocolate felt more like an old school Hong Kong action piece and was equally as daring in some of its experimentation. As strickly a martial arts film I do feel that Ong Bak might be superior but for overall entertainment, variety and uniqueness in both story and action Chocolate might just be the current Thai champ.Bastard Ronin
9/23/2008 6:35 AM
 #4 I agree also. Moreover, the story I think is more accessible to non-Thais, and the lead is female.Chaiwallah
10/12/2008 1:08 AM
 #5 To me this is the Thai action movie to beat at the moment and Prachya Pinkaew finest effort so far. You can clearly see his evolution as a director and the editing of the movie is far superior to anything he has done so far. But I don’t know I got a feeling that Tony will surprise a lot of people with Ong Bak 2 with he is directing. Some of my favorite Jackie Chan movies are the one’s he directed so I am hoping Tony can pull it off too, will see. Bless01
10/18/2008 8:35 PM
 #6 I don't know if I would say better, but this was a pretty damn good flick, and I enjoyed it immensely. Why can't American filmakers make movies like this instead of rehashing old ideas? William Giordanella
11/28/2008 1:57 PM
 #7 William you just pointed out what is wrong with American filmakers. For the sake of the big box office smash that will keep the dollars rolling, American filmakers take formulas already used with some success, put their stamp on it with heavier special effects, and POW! Original thinking still going out the window! Chocolate overall had a more interesting plot to me than Ong Bak. I loved Ong Bak and I think Prachya Pinkaew did a great job on both films! However, I loved Jeeja as much as Tony but Chocolate's plot was the more compelling for me than Ong Bak's plot.Sgt. T
11/28/2008 2:55 PM
 #8 The scale on which most American films - even those considered made on a modest budget - are made has a terrifically restrictive effect on any kind of risk-taking or original thought. These days a film that doesn't find an audience and isn't a smash on the opening weekend is enough to threaten its studio's annual profitability, and also any director without a strong box office history the chance to work again.

I didn't find "Chocolate" quite as satisfying as Ong Bak (or nearly as satisfying as "Tom Yum Gang"), because Tony Jaa's presence is too great for that to happen - but it is still a very significantly better written and acted film than anything in which Jaa has appeared.

Jeffrey Frawley
11/29/2008 4:00 PM
 #9 And you think this movie contains risk-taking with original thought? This movie is how Ong-bak would look if Tony Jaa were female and mentally retarded.

This movie is so derivative, it makes "I Know What You did Last Summer" seem fresh and original.

MS10197
12/25/2008 9:51 PM

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